Paper patched muzzleloader bullets

In the final chapter, he gives a quick summary of what works. These come in blister packs of 12 muzzleloader bullets. The 50 i wanted to try to patch for was a gun i put together for my son. Pittman bullets recommends harvester sabots for use with the accumax. The use of paper patched bullets is especially known from the buffalo hunts on the american prairies where millions of the shaggy beasts fell for paper patched bullets.

We go into some detail on how to load for black powder. Mar 06, 2014 wrapping and sizing paper patched bullets for muzzleloaders duration. North american muzzleloader hunting shares a couple of ways to patch lead. I went out this morning to try 2 different bullets in my knight mountaineer. There are many ways to patch bullets, smooth bullets are by far the most common and historical way. Paper patch bullets were once the most popular type of bullets in the 1800s. Paper patched bullets, swaged vs cast shiloh rifle forums. You can do it, but i never was satisfied with the outcome. I wanted to share my success with paper patched muzzleloader bullets for deer.

The paper patch bullet is from montana precision swaging and it has a wicked cutting edge or wad cutter type shoulder, which leaves pronounced full caliber holes in paper targets. Masking tape patched lead bullets carolina shooters club. Muzzleloader rate of twist chart this chart will help you select the bullet weight which is most likely to result in the best accuracy. If you want to shoot a cast bullet in a muzzleloader you need a barrel cut 12 thousandths deep. Like in a hawkens rifle or something like that, would you use a patch when firing a minie ball, or would you just seat the projectile direcly on the powder. Sizing paperpatched bullets for smokeless powder load. Im aware that many molds are available to cast bullets for paper patching. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data.

The art of paper patching, 3006 series introduction duration. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore. These molds are designed to fit lee six cavity handles. It had turned sideways at some point and was about 58. Working with lubricated bullets is messy in my experience. Neidner, called the muzzleloading rifle, if i recall correctly. To knurl or groove the bullets, just swing the handle down to. For pp, 1st get your paper, then the bullet mould to make sure you are arriving at the correct diameter. I also made a patching jig so that the paper on the bullets were all the same. When you have a clean rag and time to wipe your hands between shots they. I was doing great with that gun so i decided to try my luck with my 50 cal. In his march 1977 article paper patched bullets come of age, harrison provides a few rules for the shooter using a paper patch to obtain top velocities with poured slugs. Bullets recovered from berms were similar lots of deformation with little weight loss.

Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45. A bit over is not too bad, you can always size the patched bullet. His delightfully informative book on the subject, the paper jacket, is perhaps the best resource for a. Grease groove bullets have been the most accurate type so far. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load. Just bought a 45 cal bargara 128 twist 28 barrel for my encore. Discussion in reloading started by sharps4050, mar 4, 2012. New lube for black powder rifles american shooting journal. I also did some hunting rifle paper patching very successfully with my 358 win see other 35 cal thread. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets.

Paper patching the hunting bullet for a muzzleloader. I prefer to use paper patched bullets simply because they are easier to handle. There is some question about whether the accuracy improvements result from the paper jackets or from the greater uniformity of shooting procedures by people with the patience to apply the patches. I lube them with the lube i make for grooved bullets, although many types will work. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of the crimp groove, so that they will chamber in the great variety of firearms out there. For pp, 1st get your paper, then the bullet mould to make sure you are arriving at the. Now, i my interest in cast bullets is rekindled, mostly for bpcr, but also would like to. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets.

Lowspeed heavy bullet expansion the view from north. When you have a clean rag and time to wipe your hands between shots they work fine. The opening for cutting the tape patch is 1 316 allowing for slight stretch of the patch, mateing up the cut ends butt to butt. Using a two stage sizing process to create cheap bullets to keep you shooting. The load i used on this hunt and trust in this rifle is my favorite, a 500 gr. Most shooters, given quality ppbs and proper loading techniques. Grease grooves base guards production knurling big slugs power press diamond knurl nose shapes base shapes patch formula single. Havent tried paper patched muzzle loading bullets, other than a cross patch in a friends bench gun. It is a very detailed book on the most accurate target and long range 1k rifles of the 19th.

Oct 14, 2016 paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Myself, i prefer paper patched bullets for three reasons. Shoot em the way they were originally designed to be shot, with black powder and paper patched bullets. I paper patched a variety of 9mm and 38357 bullets. Note, i dont bother to remove hard lube from the bullets. I find 8 thousandths deep works well for paper patched bullets, but is too iffy for cast bullets.

If youre a diehard paperpatched bullet shooter, youre undoubtedly familiar with paul matthews. Corbin paper patchblackpower bullet tools corbin swaging. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed. Sep 11, 2016 for the record, this is not my video or gun or cartridge load. Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. A small number of dedicated target shooters still load paper patched bullets at velocities up to about 2,000 feet per second 610 ms. Dec 17, 2007 do you use patches with conical bullets. The paper i used was plain old letter writing paper. North american muzzleloader hunting shares a couple of ways to patch lead bullets and the papers that works best. Nov 19, 2014 in that instance, the bullet can be patched with the front end of the patch extending just beyond the start of the ogive point cone because such bullets are normally seated deeply, with the front of the drivingband section jammed into the leade cone, which is often located just ahead of the case mouth. Dont try to bump up a cast bullet as you would a paper patched bullet. New paper patch approach by ed wosika linkedin slideshare. Here are the benefits of shooting paper patched bullets in your inline.

Id cut a large batch of patches in front of the tv. His delightfully informative book on the subject, the paper jacket, is perhaps the best resource for a reloader interested in utilizing paperpatched bullets with smokeless powder. Light for the caliber bullets will work in fast twist barrels but we dont say. In my opinion, paper patched bullets was a kind of fashion in the early black powder cartridge era, and they were not necessarily better compared to grease grooved bullets. It has been my experience, however, that most of the cussin has been from folks with little or no personal experience with ppbs.

However, i do load and shoot black powder bp charged paper patched bullets. Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today. I dont bother to remove hard lube from the bullets. Voodoo ballistics and other misconceptions still abound in blackpowder shooting. Swaging also allows the bullet to have a desired base design, rather than flat. That one is fun, but at 22 pounds, hardly field friendly. Mar, 2018 the load i used on this hunt and trust in this rifle is my favorite, a 500 gr. May 17, 2016 myself, i prefer paper patched bullets for three reasons. If i can get the wife to watch the kids for a while, ill try to launch them.

Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target. Pittman bullets high performance muzzleloading shooting. The most authoritative work on paper patched bullets. Much discussion and cussin have been laid at their doorstep. As velocity increased and rifling was introduced a problem of. Wrapping and sizing paper patched bullets for muzzleloaders duration. I bought a copy of this book at a gun show in gulfport, mississippi yesterday. The current resurgence of singleshot and blackpowder rifles creates a need for uptodate and accurate information about paper patched bullets. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet. Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of. Nei lee rcbs saeco and lyman ideal, are companies im familiar with to whatever degree. The paperpatched 400grain bullets were loaded over 75 grains by weight of the olde eynsford 1 12f with a walters. Del phillips who runs the single shot shop, 16240 st.

And even paper patched some bullets for my 375 hh improved to shoot deer with. If i use paper cartridges for the powder, shold i put those on top of the powder before the bullet. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paper patched conical bullets. The projectile is cast to a diameter that is usually that of the. My paper patch hunting and long range paper patch loads for reference only. Ive shot chase patches in my muzzle loaders and my 4050 ballard. This double barrel rifle from traditions provides the fastest second shot possible with a muzzleloading rifle. Jan 26, 2020 pittman bullets recommends harvester sabots for use with the accumax. Chase patches have been more accurate than wrapped paper patched bullets for me. However, i do load and shoot black powder bp charged paper patched bullets ppbs exclusively for my sharps falling block and. I was doing great with that gun so i decided to try my luck. Never tried breech seating chase patches in the ballard because the throat is not tapered.

My hunting loads using swaged paper patch bullets are as follows. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paperpatched conical bullets. You can even use your normal black powder lube to grease the paper patch. Sizing paperpatched bullets for smokeless powder load data. Thats the subject of my book, loading and shooting. This is only a guide as individual barrels will vary. A selection of historic, british military ammunition. A simple wipe with a paper towel to clean grit and lube from the driving bands. Corbin paper patch and blackpowder bullet swagingreloading. Bullets patched to groove will work with smokeless, patched to bore not nearly so.

For the record, this is not my video or gun or cartridge load. The maxiballs seemed loose and i wasnt getting the groups that i expected, so i stuck my calipers down the muzzle. A beginners guide to loading and shooting paper patched bullets for early black powder cartridge rifles. The bullets you have made can now be paper patched, or placed on the rollers of the corbin hct2 knurling tool, or the hct3 grooving tool. Ive been using maxiballs lately, but i want to try paper patching hornady xtp. Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer. Muzzleloading info pine ridge black powder custom side. Buffalo hunters used this type of bullet to hunt millions of buffalos. Paper patching muzzle loader bullets alaska outdoors forums. Patching is the hand process of applying paper jackets. The diameter of bullet you want to make for a muzzle loader then equals b4t. The bores of black powder guns dont need to be cleaned as often when.